Luis Cruz: Now let me ask you this, do you think there's anybody in the UFC light heavyweight division that can beat Shogun?

Brandon Vera: Umm [very long pause]

Luis Cruz: [laughing] That's a long time to be thinking..

Brandon Vera: I know.

Luis Cruz: [laughs] To me, he's number one overall.

Brandon Vera: Yeah, Chuck could beat him and honestly I think Forrest Griffin could beat Shogun. His style is different. Like Forrest is a gamer, you know what I'm saying? He's always game and his style, I think, matches up well with Shogun.

Luis Cruz: I'd probably throw in Rashad before Forrest against Shogun.

Brandon Vera: Oh Rashad, yes he would be a good one too.

Luis Cruz: I don't know, I think Shogun would beat them all with Chuck Liddell having the best chance. Because Chuck always has that one shot and he can put anybody's lights out.

Brandon Vera: Dude, I'd love to fight Shogun. That'd be a bad ass fight. Me and him would match up well. Me and my coach were talking about me fighting him back at the house when watching the PRIDE show. Shogun was fighting and I was like "yeah man, that would be a good fight." My coach started smiling, he was like "yep."

Luis Cruz: By the time that comes around, when PRIDE and UFC start to come around on the fighter sharing issue.

Brandon Vera: Nah, I'd already be retired dude [laughs].

Luis Cruz: [laughs]

Brandon Vera: By the time that happens, I'd probably be retired.

Luis Cruz: Well you never know. He could come over at some point.

Brandon Vera: Yeah but UFC and PRIDE hate each other right now.

Luis Cruz: Yeah I know, I was saying he [Shogun] could come over himself and sign say a three-fight contract or something. Anything could happen, but I mean who knows. You guys could both be champs and maybe then they could come up with something.

Brandon Vera: That would be good. I mean that would be a ...jesus christ, I think me and Shogun fighting would be insane almost. He does a lot of flying stuff coming out of Chute Boxe and has a Chute Boxe-feel to his game. I mean, that would be a bad ass fight.

Luis Cruz: Now real quick let me ask you this. How does a fight with Sylvia and Fedor go?

Brandon Vera: Sylvia and Fedor?

Luis Cruz: Yeah.

Brandon Vera: For the first round I think it's boring. Tim would just be jabbing him around. Jabbing, jabbing, jabbing and moving around. And then second round I think Fedor would just figure it out and start scoring to the body heavy [starts laughing] and then just start swinging to the head after that. I don't see Tim, I just don't see Tim beating Fedor. He's not, I don't wanna say he quits, because he's structurally sound. But Tim's game plan, the way he fights - I don't think it'd work against Fedor.